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I don't understand this at all. Don Foster MP says, "The public's fury at the sick profiteering over Live 8 shows that eBay can no longer afford to ignore its social responsibility in this area."
What is sick here? As eBay said (before they caved in), "it is a fundamental right for someone to be able to sell something that is theirs whether they paid for it or won it in a competition."
A few people have tickets, a great many don't, and some of them want very much to have tickets. Why is it "sick" for the former to sell their tickets to the latter?
Rich - 16/6/2005 16:18 - 131.111.236.214
<rant> Here's the best argument I've found on teh intarweb as to why selling live8 tickets you won in a lottery (the tickets are "free" except for the £1.50 cost of texting in) is evil.

"One of the benefits of preventing touting ... is to stop people from buying up tickets who have no intention of going, giving a better chance to those who want to go to the festival. If your entitled to buy a ticket and do what you want with it, then why don't a load of people with no intention of ever having anything to do with [the event] buy up all the tickets and charge all of us £300+ for our tickets."

We live in a free market democracy. The price of goods is decided by mutual consensus, not by a decree from Sir Bob "fucking nutcase" Geldof. Lots of people want to go and see all the superstars at Live8, and lots of them want that more than they want £300. Sir Bob wants the concert to be free to the masses and affordable. However there is a physical limit on the number of people who can go, so he has to give a limited number of tickets out by lottery. If some of the people he gave the tickets to want £300 more than they want their tickets, what's the fucking problem?

Both sides in the agreement win -- the person who won the ticket and wanted £300 more than his ticket gets £300. The person who really really wanted the ticket gets one. The only loser is Sir Bob "I'm not a capitalist even though I'm insanely rich" Geldof, who doesn't get to dictate that his do-gooding concert is accessible to people who can't afford £300.

Who the hell does he think he is? Why the hell should he dictate whether or not his concert tickets are worth more or less than £300? That decision rests with each individual, and should be completely sacrosanct. The freedom to make our own negotiations is just about the most important freedom we have (after physical safety).

This really pisses me off. Sir Bob "fuckwit" Geldof thinks market freedom is "disgusting greed". That's easy to say for a millionaire who won't pay royalties to his old band.

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Rich - 16/6/2005 16:49 - 131.111.236.214
I'm pretty sure ticket touting is illegal for the same reason that passing on your half used car park ticket is illegal. Isn't the ticket some kind of contract with the person who bought it, one of the clauses being the agreement not to sell the ticket on.
However I'm not sure whether this still applies to Live8 tickets, which weren't bought, they were 'won' for 'free' in a lottery.
I think you should definitely be able to sell goods with an attached contract that prevents you selling the goods on futher, but it's almost certainly wrong to retrospectively apply such a condition to goods (such as Live8 tickets).
t - 16/6/2005 21:48 - 212.140.118.50

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